424. GITA 8 : BHAGAVATH PRAPTHI

GITA  8   :    BHAGAVATH  PRAPTHI

18]     Ch. 8          Slokam  17

Sahasra yuga  paryantam  maharyad  brahmano vidhu:

Raatri  yuga  sahasraantam  tejo  raatra  vido  jana:

In this time reversal theory was explained.

Sahasra yuga  paryantam       = for one thousand yugaas

Aha:                                                    = day

Yath                                                    = which

Brahman:                                             = of Brahman

Viduh                                                  = imagine

Rastri                                                   = during night

Yuga sasraantam                                 = which can complete in 1000 yugas

The                                                      = that

Ahoraathrah:                                       = night like day

Viduh:                                                 = people known

Janaah:                                                = people

Day and nights of the planets vary from planet to planet.

Brahma’s one day is ours satya, treat, dwapara, and kali yugas.       

             Satya               =          17, 28, 000      years

Treat                =          12, 96, 000      years

Dwapara          =            8, 64, 000      years

Kali                 =            4, 42, 000      years

                                    ……………..

                                    43, 30, 000      years

This type of 100 days of Brahma is equal to 1 second to Maha Vishnu.

How could they calculate such fantastic ‘times’?

The present “Time” system we made it recently but in those days, How?

It gained its prominence only after Einstein’s “Time Reversal Theory”.

In what sphere the Gods have been residing?

In 1900 Einstein said the “Timer Reversal Theory”.

How could those people, thousands  of years ago could imagine Timer Reversal Theory.

        To prove Einstein’s Timer Reversal Theory  people could understand only after 60 years when Concorde, an aircraft came in to existence.

1]   Concorde travels at 2500 kmph.

        The rotational speed of the Earth is 1600 Kmph. It takes one day,  that means 24 hours to complete one rotation. Then it enters into another day.

        If we travel in any aircraft, to go to USA, it may take two days.

        But if we travel in Concorde at 2500 Kmph, it makes  the rotational speed of the Earth is slower than the speed of Concorde. The Sun rays falling on the Earth takes 12 hours to go from one place to another.

        For example  take Wednesday. On that day, in the afternoon if we start to go to USA travelling in Concorde we reach America on the same day in the morning. That means before sun rays could reach America, the plane goes to America. It was impossible to believe before 1960 AD.

India to America         3000 + 5000 Kms       =          8000 kms

Concorde travels at 2500 Kmph.

Let us break 2500 Kms = 1600 [rotational speed of the Earth]  + 900 kms [faster]

8000 kms = 900 + 900 + 900 +  … nearly 9 times. [900 X 9 = 8100 kms]

It amounts to  9 hours behind of the schedule. This is called time going back.

        That means if we take lunch at 1:00 PM on Wednesday and go to America in Concorde we may reach America at  4 AM on the same day!

        If we travel in Jumbo Jet, which travel at 850 kmph then we reach America on

8000 / 850 = nearly 10 times

With small breaks, intervals it takes 18 hours.

        That means if we take lunch at 1:00 PM on Wednesday and go to America in Jumbo Jet we may reach America on  Thursday evening 6 PM.

2]   Once a girl, studying 9^th class asked Einstein, what was called theory of relativity?

What answer could he say to that girl.

        He said, if a sixteen years boy sits with a sixteen years girl for 4 hours then those 4 hours would be completed in  4 minutes.

        If the same sixteen years boy sits with an 80 years old woman, four hours would be like four years.

        This is called Theory of Relativity.

3]   Einstein said that everything is relative. There is nothing like absolute truth.

4]   The day and nights and even years vary from planet to planet. Which is correct? We don’t   know.

Eg., the Escape velocities

Sun                                          617.7               Kms/sec

Mercury                                   4.25                 Kms/sec

Venus                                      10.46               Kms/sec

Earth                                       11.186             Kms/sec

Moon                                       2.38                 Kms/sec

Mars                                        5.027               Kms/sec

Jupiter                                     59.5                 Kms/sec

Saturn                                      35.5                 Kms/sec

Uranus                                     21.3                 Kms/sec

Neptune                                  23.5                 Kms/sec

Pluto                                        1.27                 Kms/sec

Solar system                            1000                Kms/sec

Similarly the day, the night, the year etc of all the planets vary because theirs rotational speed and revolution speeds vary.

5]   The details of whom we speak may belong to other planets of other solar systems. These many variations on one planet cannot be possible. That means somebody might have visited the Earth long back.

        Unless there is such and such exits man’s imagination does not imagine. Even if some have extraordinary knowledge, they may go to few generations ahead than the present but thinking ahead of centuries is impossible. But it happened.

1.      Einstein’s time reversal theory,

2.      Nostradamus’s future predictions,

3.      Veerabhmam’s kaala gnaanam,

4.      A woman who predicted that Alexander would do such things,

Etc.,

Constructions which we can never even imagine, the present people cannot;

Sanskrit language is such, it is a wonder.

1.      No present poet can write a sloka of that standard

2.      Cannot influence this society

3.      Slokas remained without change for generations

4.      Language too remained in tact like that was

Who could write that language?

Who was the originator?

Here we feel that it is the work of the God.

Sanskrit is wonderful.

The writer is more wonderful.

And

Gita is the most wonderful

       

       

423. G I T A 7

GITA  7   :    BHAGAVADVIGNANAM

17]     Ch. 7          Slokam  16

Chaturvidhaam bhajante / maam janaa sukrutinorjuna

Aartho  jignasaardhrdhi gnani cha bharatarsha bha

Moksham:-

Moksham was never imagined in those days.

During Buddha’s time there were only “three dandam”.

During the days of Buddha, there was no concept of  Moksham.

People never questioned the gurus or the other great people.

Three dandam  means 

1] dharma

2] ardha          and

3] kaama

Then in those days no body questioned what was said by the gurus.

        In later times, people started questioning, if they had done all the rituals and followed systems well, then what was the benefit that they were going to get?

        People were worshipping doing yagnam and yagam. They were not knowing about idol worship. Pujari system was not there.

        Then came the concept of Moksham..

This Moksham  was given different meanings according to their constitution of mind.

1.      It is another type of heaven.

2.      In this people who reached there would never get hunger,

3.      Always would be in the company of heavenly whores

4.      No rebirth

Etc.

        If we  imagine that “everything belongs to us” then the accumulation starts. This persuation goes on and on. No one can stop us. There is no limit to this accumulation. We live in the desires, unfathomable desires, perennial desires and so on.  

        When the age exceeds, we become old, a day will when we could not enjoy the worldly things then a question arises.

What is the end of this accumulation?

What does it lead ultimately?

This only a Jignasuvu will ask?

When we start asking a question like this that means we are on the way to acquire Gnanam.

Some may not get this in this generation. They may need generations to pass by.

Some gain this in later stages as Arjuna said.

Some gain this in very early stages only. [Buddha, Adi Shankar, Ramana Maharshi, …]

If not as Adi Shankara said “punaruthi janam, punaruthi maranam, ….”

        If people have attained this state,  this Gnanam is understood,  such people are ready to leave this world. It is because they have realised that there is nothing in this world.

        Moksham  means getting rid of the bondage. The futility of the worldly things. It is non-attachment. It is just like a lotus comes from the mud, but there is no mud to it. This is Moksham.  

       

        In this bondage of the world there is no beauty, no enjoyment, except slavery.

Bondage is always painful.

1.      The Negros suffered a lot till slavery was abolished.

2.      Indians too suffered in bondage for 1000 years.

3.       

Swami Vivekananda says,

“Strike off thy fetters, bonds that bind thee down

Know that a slave is a slave, caressed or whipped

For fetters though of gold are not less strong to bind

Then off with them Sanyasin bold”

We may feel that the people will always follow with us.

No.

Some will follow, because we pay.

J Krishna Murthy said,

“The more you depend on others, the better respect that you show.

It is not the respect.

But it is the dependency that makes you to be respectable”

After our death, some accompany the dead till the graveyard.

It is a customary thing.

That is why people follow.

There are a few who remain in the graveyard till the body is cremated.

Even after death some are remembered because of what good things they have done.

Gandhiji is remembered because he brought independence to India.

Einstein is remembered because of his scientific theories.

Alexander is remembered because of the adventures.

And so on.

Gita says that there are people who wish god in many ways.

Those ways are

1.      Aarthi

2.      Ardhardhi

3.      Jignasuvu

4.      Gnani

Aarthi :-

        Those we always wish to have something. What is that? They don’t know. But they always crave for something.

        Something is better than nothing.

        A beggar wants something better. A clerk wants something. A businessman wants something better. And so on. There is no highest point of craving. It differs from man to man.

        They go to temple and submit a tender list asking that they want so and so. For that purpose they submit a puja, nomu, hairdonation, etc. Out many items mentioned they may receive one or two. Then they do BF [Brought Forth] and go to god next  time with a modified list. This process goes on till death.

Ardhaardhi :-

        These people they demand only money, wealth, luxuries, etc. They demand the god that they will be peaceful only if Khammam is written on their name.

        We can fill someone’s stomach, but not his eyes. [kisee kaa pet bharaa saktaathahai, magar nazar nahee bharaa sakte]

Jignasuvu:-

        These people are interested to know, learn, investigate, etc. They are not interested in accumulation.

        For example why people are so different?

        Many people cannot solve their own problems, but seek others’ help, why?

        What is this world?

        Why should we worship the god?

And so on.

        Buddha who was Jignasuvu, afterwards became the Gnani.

        Buddha who became Ganani never accepted things as they were written in scripts.

        He demanded for proof.

        He demanded for authenticity.

        He demanded for universality.

Bhakti means not expecting anything from the God. It may be wealth, woman, etc.

It must be only  Gnanam only.

Gnani :-

        After learning things, there is no love or hatred towards anybody or anything. Such person is called gnani.

        That is why Gita says “nahi gnanena sadhrusham pavitram miha vidyate”

        Arjuna in the end said, “nasto mohaha, smrutir labdahaa”. To this state he came because of Krishna’s Gita explaining karma yoga, Bhakti yoga, raja yoga and gnana yoga.

        Gnani does not question. He understands and moves on. He does not criticise, he doesnot favour etc.

        Bhishma was considered gnani but he was in moham.

Gnani becomes mumukshuvu.

Mumukshuvu means “mokshame bhooyaat”

Self  realisation / teaching and educating people / elevating people /

Self imposed slavery.

        Nobody can solve this type of situation.

        Even if we try to liberate them,  they can go back to past state.

        For example middle class people they know what are their problems, but don’t try to solve them.

        If they have one rupee they go for expending 100 rupees. Then who can solve them?

        Every generation will have the same type of problems.

        They are not jignasuvu, or gnani but aarthi, ardhardhi.

        The size of plight differs but no peace of mind.

This we can see in Mahabharata in the case Bhishma.

On the name of saving the family, he even quarreled with Pandavas.

He even injured Krishna.

When death came, he was ready to leave.

He waited for Uttarayanam  experiencing the torture because of arrows bed.

He wanted to suffer himself for all the wrongs that he had done.

He could take the death immediately in the presence of Krishna but not.

Harishchandra.

Just because of giving a promise given to a pujari, as king, he could have evaded but he suffered a lot. Because of him the entire family too suffered.

Forced slavery.

This can be eliminated. For this one should have jignasa.

Lincoln eradicated this.

        Such people can remain peaceful anywhere on this earth because whenever they get a problem they know how to solve it and be peaceful.

        Jews suffered a lot. They have been the people who suffered most in the history.

       

        If we really understand the greatness of Gita, we can understand where are we and we can understand to where we should go.

        What is the purpose of this life?

1.      Accumulation of wealth

2.      Accumulation of power

3.      Accumulation of properties

4.      Accumulation of other kingdoms

Etc., many more.

Or

Conquering thyself?